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St. Clair's Defeat
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I think it was back in 1995 that former Byrd’s frontman Roger McGuinn began his Folk Den website.

Perusing it one day in late 2006 I came upon this song. I knew immediately that I had to cover it!

My plan was to try to rock it up in a style that drew for inspiration upon both the music of Fairport Convention, and “Broadsword & The Beast” era Jethro Tull. (Looking back, it’s obvious I was just a tad in over my head!)

I was using Garage Band 2 at the time, and was still pretty darn green at recording and mixing. Also, I didn’t know how to properly save files. So while I still have all the original file stems, they were saved, each one, in finished and finalized form. This seriously limits ones ability to do a remix!

Instead of a remix I decided a good remaster would be best, so I sent the file to our friend Tom Hellstens for a much needed facelift. He always delivers the goods! (Deep bows my friend. Deep bows...)

I’ve always liked this one, in part because it features some of my finest folk-vocals. Nailed them on the second pass, which is unusual for a hack like me!Also I’m a sucker for a true story, and this is one helluva tale!

The Iroquois/Mohawk side of my ancestry emerges in this historic tune about one of the many costs of manifest destiny…

RE the artwork: After recording this tune I discovered this painting. I contacted the artist, sent him a copy of the song, and asked if I could use his painting for the artwork on the site where I would post it---the now defunct Macjams.com. He liked the song, and gave me the go ahead. Sadly, I’ve since lost that info. If you can locate it online, the color version of the painting is quite beautiful!

Be well friends!
Released: 20-Apr-2024
Category: Folk
Application: Logic Pro
File type: mp3
File size: 16.7 Mb
Plays: 17
Downloads: 1
Weekly plays: 2
Weekly downloads: 1
License: No derivative works allowed
Lyrics
ST. CLAIR'S DEFEAT

Twas November the fourth in the year of ninety-one,
We had a sore engagement near to Fort Jefferson.
Sinclair was our commander, which may remembered be;
But we left nine hundred soldiers in that Western Territory. 

At Bunker’s Hill and in Quebec, where many a hero fell;
Likewise out on Long Island, it is I the truth can tell;
But such a dreadful carnage, never did I see,
As happened all out on the plains, near the River St. Marie.

Our militia was attacked, just as the day did break;
And soon we were o'erpowered, and forced into retreat.
They killed our major Ouldham, and major Briggs likewise;
While horrid yells of anguished souls resounded through the skies.

Major Butler he was wounded the very second fire;
His manly bosom swelled with rage they forced him to retire.
Like one distracted he appeared, when thus exclaim-ed he,
Ye hounds of hell shall all be slain but what revenged I’ll be.

We had not very long been broke, when General Butler fell.
He cries me boys I’m wounded, pray take me off this field.
My word says he, what shall we do, we’re wounded every man!
So charge your valiant heroes and beat them if you can...

He leaned his back against a tree, and there resigned his breath;
And like a valiant soldier, sunk into the arms of death.
When blessed angels did await, his spirit to convey,
Into celestial fields, he did quickly bend his way.

We charged again and took our ground, which did our hearts elate;
But there we did not tarry long, they soon made us retreat.
They killed our major Ferguson, which caused his men to cry:
Stand to your guns says valiant Ford, we’ll fight until we die!

Our cannon balls exhausted, artillery men all slain;
Our musketeers and riflemen, their fire they did sustain.
Three hours more we fought like men, and they were forced to yield;
While three hundred bloody warriors lay stretched across the field.

Says colonel Gibson to his men: Me boys be not dismayed!
I’m sure that true Virginians were never yet afraid.
Ten thousand deaths I’d rather die, than they should gain this field!
With that he got a fatal shot, causing him to yield...

Says major Clark: Me heroes, we can no longer stand.
We shall strive to form in order, and retreat the best we can.
The word retreat being passed around, they raised a dreadful cry;
Then helter skelter through the woods like wolves and sheep they fly!

We left the wounded on the field, O heavens what a shock!
And many bones were shattered, and strewn across the rock!
With scalping knives and tomahawks, they robbed some of their breath;
While raging flames of torment, tortured other men to death...

Twas November the fourth in the year of ninety-one;
We had a sore engagement near to Fort Jefferson.
Sinclair was our commander, which may remembered be;
But we left nine hundred soldiers in that Western Territory!
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Mike you got yer folkie on.  Great work.  The keyboards work great. 
Sounds like you enjoyed making this one.  
 
6 months ago
artist
Sounds great Mike 
Clear & clean Kudos to you both 
Awesome folk song
Well enjoyed
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6 months ago
This is a fantastic song. Never heard the original. Super way you arranged it and played it. Vocals are spot on folky and firm. Super crisp sound
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6 months ago
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Daug,
It may not always show, but I'm a folky at heart before a rocker. It's just that I'm a little better at the latter...
:-)
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6 months ago
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Omar,
Thanks bro. Warfare... manifest destiny... UGLY things...
Makes for a good song concept though! 
Kudos to whoever wrote this and to Roger McGuinn for posting it on his site.
Hard to miss with good material. LOL...
:-)
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6 months ago
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Kenneth,
I am amazed that it turned out as good as it did. I had been recording for about a year only at that point. Still a total greenhorn, but was very excited to be making music, and I had lots and lots of energy. 
If I had to re-record this from scratch I'm afraid I'd lose the will to live!
So major thanks to Tom Hellstens for tweaking the sound!
:-)
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6 months ago
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Mike yer a crooner, not a rocker and clearly not a folkie.  A singer songwriter guy Mike.  Sorry to have to tell you like this...
 
6 months ago
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Daug,
You been listening to mom again... When you gonna individuate?
Slash that embilical cord! LOL...
Just kidding bro. I'm pretty sure I know what you mean... From now on I'll confine myself to doing covers of old Frankie Laine tunes...
;-)
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6 months ago
artist
Stop now.  I will not message to you if you're gonna make fun of Mom.  We just had this discussion. 
If you want to be successful you have to play to your strengths.  
 
6 months ago
artist
Wow!!!!!! Great teaming up with Tommy! You should visit him in Thailand! I have met him twice there! Loved the mix! And what a great cover! An adventure! Did you play all the instruments?
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@StanTheManLoh   
Stan, 
I'd love to visit Tom in Thailand, but I don't travel well anymore, also not a lot of money lying around for that sort of thing.
Yes, I played all the instruments, except for the drums, which were apple loops of one sort or another. I remember it being an awful lot of work, but as I was still very new to recording I was proud of the finished product.
So glad you enjoyed the tune my friend!
:-)
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6 months ago
artist
Not a great fan of folk songs but this one evolves in so many directions. That organ solo around 2:50 is great. Your arrangements kept my attention till the end. Great work Mike.
6 months ago
artist
This is a really good song my friend, and you sing it so beautifully 
6 months ago
artist
Sounds brilliant. Mike I love it!!!!!!!!! :)
6 months ago
artist
What a great historical rendition… Really takes me back to earlier times.
6 months ago
artist
Thierry, Tom, Dorothy & Mary,
Many thanks folks for being willing to slog through this piece.
(And that concludes our history lesson for today. LOL...)
;-)
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6 months ago
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Soon as I clicked play and heard those heartbeat like thuds I knew my ears were in for a real treat and oh boy they certainly were !! amazing listen and very much enjoyed 👍🎸🎸
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Thank you Dave!
I appreciate the kind review!
😋
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6 months ago
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Heroic rip snorten fun Mike. I'm looken my musket right now. 
Sounds great!
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@Bowman 
Thanks Charlie for the rip snortin' comment!
:-)
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6 months ago
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My Knowledge of Americana is limited -but this I like. I recocgnise the structures and the song itself is fine-your version rocks
6 months ago
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A lot of early American folk music was written by Irish and Scotch immigrants. Especially in the Appalachians. I don't know if the guys who wrote this go that far back, but if not, they certainly based it upon earlier folk musical traditions. To my ears there is a strong celtic influence in the vocal melody.
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